I bought my Longshot CS-6, ordered the OMW Stage 1 and 2 kits for it, downloaded modding tutorials, and I'm pretty much ready to mod it (remove the AR, put in a 8kg spring, etc.), however I have come upon a small problem; I don't know what to pad the plunger head with. I have heard (and its said in the OMW guide) that craft foam is the best thing to use. I have some at home, however I don't know if its thich enough. The guys in the guide used 5mm foam, and I have some thats about 2mm thick. I could stack the foam, however I am afraid that if I put glue in between the pieces, it will soak up into the foam and then harden, making the foam pieces useless. And I don't want to drive to a craft store just for a small circle of 5mm thick crafting foam.
Alternatively, I found a Mega Dart on the street the other day, and as I don't have any Mega nerf blasters, I could slice off foam rings from the dart. However, I don't know if this is a good approach. And if I'm to use this method, how thick should I make the circles? (I have heard that making them too thick will cause loading problems and making them too thin would not cushion the impact enough)
I would post this under the Questions and Answers category, however it doesn't let me for some reason and instead of publishing the post it redirects me to a page called "Undefined" (which has been marked as deleted)
As a resident modder, I guess everyone is waiting for me to reply. So here goes.
I like your idea about doubling up 2mm foam. That's the perfect amount of padding. The trick is what type of glue to use. You are absolutely right, if you use something that hardens, or soaks in and makes the foam stiff, you've defeated the whole purpose. Right ?
Hot glue is the first thing that comes to mind. It doesn't soak in, and it doesn't ever really harden. The bond with the plunger head won't be super strong, but this is not a situation where tensile strength is important. It just has to be strong enough to keep it connected to the plunger during the priming cycle, which is minimal. You'd only need a small dab in the center.
The Mega dart foam might work, but you would have to securely glue it to the plunger head. It's going to want to curl and there's a limited amount of flat surface area on the Stage II plunger head to glue it to. Trust me, if it ever came off and curled up on one side, the next time you fire it you'll crack the plunger rod. So maybe let's skip this idea for now.
If you don't have access to hot glue, there are a bunch of other sources for good padding material like adhesive felt furniture pads, garden hose gaskets, high density foam packaging material, and old automotive seals and gaskets. Maybe ask around and see if somebody's got anything like that.
Look, anything is better than nothing. And the LongShot is really tough. It's the Jeep of blasters. I doubled the spring on one, removed the AR and didn't use any padding. It's still working fine.
First of all, thanks for telling us about the "undefined" thing.
JETCELL! CERRWIDEN! WE GOT STUFF TO FIX!
Look, I would go with the MEGA dart, make the circle 4mm thick and try not to screw everything up.
Also, you got good points: indeed, with craft foam, depending on the type of glue you use, the whole thing will get brittle. Here in Brazil we have a plastic glue made for craft foam, but that could leak and stop the plunger. So, I think it is a no-go.
Let's see what the other guys have to say. I would stick with a 4mm thick MEGA circle and test it. I know it is enough to cushion the impact, but if you have loading problems, you can remove it, cut a new, thinner circle and try again.
Well, I was a bit impatient, and I started modding before I got these replies, so I ended up using a piece of some packaging material. It was sort of sponge-like, white and slightly transparent. I ended up cutting off a 4mm or so thick circle, and glued it to the plunger rod with a hot glue gun. It stayed on fine, so I used this to fill the deadspace too. (Also, I noticed that the temperature of the glue gun melted the material, so I had to put the glue on the plunger head, not the foam thingy). It looked to cushion fine, but I don't know if crafting foam would have been better.
Anyway, my very first mod was a success; I opened the blaster with a few scratches, (but then again, who cares?) removed the locks, switched out the components (including the whole plunger) for the stuff from OMW (I'm just wondering, is it sturdier at all?), cut out the AR, filled in the deadspace, padded the plunger head, and closed the blaster without any trouble.
But, when I fire it, it emits a really loud and powerful (and "dangerous"), long "twang" sound, however I have heard somewhere that this is normal. The FPS and range got increased significantly, but I'm worried that if I continue using my Longshot, it will break. (I fired it five times so far, and one of those five was dryfired (accidentally, I know dryfiring is very bad)) The "twang" sound really sounds like there is a lot of stress on the plunger; you can hear the 8kg spring vibrate for a few seconds after each shot. I was wondering if this could be because since the padding is not really near the edges (so it doesn't interfere with the plunger inside the plunger tube), and the AR is removed, so the plunger collides with the sides of the thing where the AR was, causing an un-padded collision.
So I assume that the smartest thing to do now is take apart the gun again, check for structural damage, remove the old plunger padding and put in the foam padding, while making sure its as close to the sides as possible. However, as I said, this is my very first mod, so I don't really know how to do this kind of stuff.
That's a good plan. The padding should really extend all the way to the rim of the plunger head. Remember, there's a hole in the center of the plunger tube, so you're not getting any effective padding there. The force is really distributed around the outer edge of the plunger head.
The Delrin / Polyox that OMW makes their parts out of is pretty strong. From a strength perspective, it's more than twice as sturdy as the ABS the rest of the blaster is made of.
My LongShot twangs too. So it looks like you did it right 👍
I just tried to post something in the Q&A section, and I had no problems. Strange.
When I modded my Longshot, I used a large felt cutout that is normally used for padding the bottom of table legs and such. Dry firing is not great when you've got a stronger than stock spring, but if you properly pad it, you shouldn't have any issues. (I still wouldn't recommend you dry fire it, but if you accidentally dry fire it now and then, you should be good)
Look, don't worry about dry firing. I've tried to explain this old-wives tale a dozen times. Frankly, it's exhausting. Bottom line, dry firing is not a problem*. Stock or modified.
This is a basic Physics-101 problem. It's a function of friction, mass, and acceleration. But apparently nobody has Google, and many Nerfers didn't take physics as a freshman elective. Frankly, those of us that did are getting pissed at those who perpetuate this myth.
Trust me, dry fire at will Risko. It's a total waste of time, but do it anyway. If it turns out to be a problem email me. I'll fix it.