Board Thread:General Nerf discussion/@comment-25265432-20140806150515/@comment-12713227-20140827235909

Throws-Many-Darts wrote: The Stig 3136 wrote: Throws-Many-Darts wrote: The Stig 3136 wrote: Retaliatorsrock123 wrote: If you didn't see a problem, then why did you say that the Magnus was Elite Mega, not Elite, in the first place? You obviously had a problem with the suggestion of a Magnus. Ugh, Where did I state that I had a problem with that? I was stating that Mega isn't elite and he shouldn't be saying Buzzbee or Pvc isn't on topic if he keeps bringing up the magnus.

TL;DR I was indirectly stating he was being hypocritical. It became very clear that you had a problem with my suggestion when you ''started trying to shoot down every single point I made. ''You continually try to make up a new reason that the Range Master is better when reviewing the facts indicates the opposite is true.

Let's go over the specifications again, just so I can show you the differences. Order is (Range Master/Magnus), both stock.

Capacity: (1 / 3)

''Max. Range (ft): (60 / 85)''

MSRP (USD): ($30 / $15)

Rate of Fire (Darts per Minute): (10 / 60)

Reload time (per dart, in seconds): (6 / 2.5)

I've never used a Range Master before, so I wouldn't know the accurate range, but the Magnus' is ~60ft.

'''Empirically, the Magnus is better in almost every way than the Range Master. Game set match, we're through here.'''

As for the Elite Mega thing, I refer you to this:

Source

This Very Wiki wrote: N-Strike Elite Mega is a sub-series of Nerf N-Strike Elite blasters. There you have it. ? You're the one who said the Rangemaster idea was a joke... I didn't start shooting down points... I just casually said "Range master is way better... so is PVC" then you went all stat mode on it.

Capacity: May you please read? I HATE reposting because people don't read my previous posts... Capacity doesn't really matter... If you miss then use a SECONDARY... Its not like you're going to have a war with one blaster...

Range: Oh please claims aren't even accurate... They are different companies too, so they probably have different factors. The magnus should have about 10 feet more I grant you that. And as you said you don't know the accurate range ;)

Price: Again, please read. I don't know what crazy place you live in, but here the prices are: Magnus - $18.87 / Rangemaster - 19.93    I'd say the rangemaster is more worth it because of what you get for your money. The magnus gives you just the magnus and 3 darts, while the rangemaster gives you the rangemaster, 10 darts, scope, barrel, and a bipod.

Thats not what we want for those stats. The magnus does shoot faster, but those stats aren't useful for our topic. Out of 3 darts the magnus has 1-2 darts per second, but if you count reload time the magnus would not able to get 60 darts per min. The Rangemaster technically shoots 60 darts per min out of 1 dart. Lol! I find this part very inaccurate, so lets dump these stats and say magnus shoots faster.

Its funny how you didn't add the most important thing... the range master is more accurate!

Capacity isn't very important in sniping because, well secondaries. Range on the magnus is only slightly better. In price the magnus is better, but the rangemaster is better value. ROF magnus is better. Rangemaster has better accuracy. In the end it would be a tie! They are better than each other depending on your gameplay style. If you are a good shot then the rangemaster would be for you. However if you are not excellent at hunting down targets, and risk missing frequently then the magnus would be better for you! :D :D :D WE ARE ALL HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For the last part mega is a sub series, not really elite. Its a technicality. BUT THAT DOESN"T MATTER!!! WE ARE HAPPY :D :D :D :D :D Capacity does matter because of three factors you constantly fail to take into account-

1) The general inaccuracy of foam darts (proven by many sources)

2) Groups

3) Human error, which WILL happen.

The Range Master's low capacity and the long reload time make attacking groups a pipe dream.

I'm going by manufacturer claims, and also I've found the Magnus to easily make good on said claims of range.

Just because you get some accessories that probably actually cost $2 collectively, and are incompatible with everything else, does not make the Range Master a better value. I bet that even without the accessories the MSRP would still be about the same (say, $25).

And on another note, you keep using your prices, which are not the prices that the MANUFACTURER has set. The MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price) of a Range Master is $30. That's that.

Max accuracy in itself doesn't matter, even in terms of sniping. It's all about how far a dart from said gun can go and still be reasonably accurate, because THAT'S the range you'll have to limit yourself to in engagements. The farther away you can be, the better. The reason that's not the case for real snipers is because their bullets generally can fly farther than they can possibly be accurate at, so max accuracy is more important.

I'm pretty sure that because the Magnus' max accurate range is reaching the manufacturer-claimed max range of the Range Master, you can get into engagements at longer range with the Magnus than with the Range Master, even without hands-on experience with the Range Master.

On RoF, you're lying. You have to reload the Range Master after every shot, and your average reload (provided nothing goes wrong when taking out the dart and you don't abuse the pump) will take about six seconds. 60/6 is 10. Ten darts per minute. Rate-of-Fire measurements, except on single-shots, does not take into account reload time, so that point is null.

I disagree- even if you're really good at hunting down targets and hitting them the Magnus is still the better blaster overall.

Sonic Ice is a sub-series, just like Mega, and I'm sure you'd call that Elite too. Your point is? For the third time, use a secondary!

Also both blasters are not good for group fights... Thats where flywheel blasters come in! Use a stryfe for a secondary.

I already said Magnus shoots farther but not by THAT much. Buzzbee tends to get ranges closer to their claims then nerf by a tiny bit. So the magnus probably shoots further by 5 - 10 feet. Also at that range with your magnus, or any stock blaster, it would be very difficult to actually hit someone if they are paying attention. Accuracy and dart speed isn't superb so darts are somewhat easy to dodge. At that range it's more harrassing then tagging.

On ROF I wasn't lying... I was joking... I was hoping that you would understand with the added "Lol!" Also you are just picking the measurement that best suits YOUR needs. If we were to do a 'How many darts can you blast off in x seconds' the results would place the ROF numbers a bit closer together. The Magnus does shoot faster though, obviously.

Again picking the measurements that suit you... When do you actually see rangemasters for 30 bucks? I don't care about the msrp. If the manufacturer suggests $30, but everyone sells it for $19, the msrp doesn't matter if you're actually going to buy the blaster. I prefer average retail price, and on blasterlabs the prices are: Magnus 14.99 / Rangemaster 19.99. You said without the accesories the price would be $5 lower, so then the prices would be the same. Also the rangemaster comes with 10 darts. So lets say 1 mega dart equals 2-3 extreme darts; the range master would have 1-4 more darts.

In the rangemasters coverage it is extremely accurate!

"Now, most experienced blaster enthusiasts will note that 60 feet isn’t terribly special in terms of ranges, when most Nerf products these days will reach that distance, if not further. However, the Range Master has one very special ace up its sleeve—it’s  incredibly accurate. How accurate? How do 3-6 inch dart groupings from 60 feet strike you? Those are the kinds of spreads we were seeing, firing after firing. In addition, the darts didn’t bounce or veer off trajectory like a Nerf Elite dart will often do. The secret is in the Range Master’s stiffer, denser foam dart material." -Blasterlabs

Not really... I'd say they are tied, because the rangemaster has the better accuracy, and value, while the magnus has the only slightly better range, and better capacity.

Sonic ice is a sub suries of repaints/reshells other wise they are exactly the same as Elites. Mega however is a whole different thing with mega darts and such.

This will be my last post about this on the forum. I feel that this is flooding the forum. If you wish to talk more on this, message me via talk page.