User talk:JetCell/Archive 4

Tactical light
Is the Tactical Light still being sold or is it discontinued? 67.1.48.15617:23, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to log in. Solowing106 17:25, July 6, 2012 (UTC)

I *think* it was discontinued. Djz07728 (talk) 22:33, December 28, 2012 (UTC). There. I put the sig in.

I'd say it is most likely discontinued, as it was only sold in a value pack of the Barrel Break and in the Mission Kit (which only saw a short production run, as far as I can tell).

Oh, and how hard is it to log in? Most browsers will keep you logged in unless you specifically log out of Wikia. It's annoying to see so many unsigned posts!!!!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:14, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Super Soaker colors
If you get a chance, please look at my comment on the talk page for the Super Soaker page. Lots of people are calling the dark color on the current Super Soaker line "black" when it is very clearly a dark blue. There are a few pages where it is correctly called blue, but the majority of the pages for the guns call it black, which is wrong.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 05:13, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

NDTL
Hello JetCell. In regarding to the NDTL page. On that page you write “The NDTL was formed in 2008 and is continuing strong to this day”. I don’t think it is continuing any more. I went to the Nerf NDTL promotion page at http://ndtl.makeitvivid.com and doesn’t have current info on the page. Is the NDTL continuing strong?

Hello
Hello, I am Abce2, head of the Bakugan Wiki. I was wondering if you'd like to join TaG. TaG is a collaboration of Toy and Game Wikis. If you have any questions, feel free to check out http://officialtag.wikia.com/wiki/TaG_Wiki

Cheers, Abce2 | Talk  "Other" 01:34, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, I am just checking to see if you got this message. There's been a lot of glitches my side, so I'm just checking up. Abce2 | Talk  "Other" 02:07, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * You don't really have to do much, just allow use of your wordmark on a template and the official TaG Wiki. You don't have to merge, or give anyone rights, or stuff like that. Abce2 | Talk  "Other" 02:20, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

WJRLucasBrothers
I don't understand how the WJRLucasBrothers don't qualify as famous Nerfers. CaCox97 has a page, as well as a couple other guys. You should check out their videos.

HuggerMan95 04:26, July 18, 2012 (UTC) Dawg95

Tactical Laser Sight?
Just found this on eBay. Any idea what the hell it is? I can't seem to find it here on the wiki - http://www.ebay.com/itm/NERF-N-STRIKE-Green-Tactical-Laser-Sight-/200793954310?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2ec0409806#ht_500wt_1413

Shot Blast/Tornado Strike shoulder stock
Please look over my comments on the Shot Blast stock's talk page and let me know what you think.

Bluedragon1971 (talk)

re: Shot Blast/Tornado Strike shoulder stock
I merged the articles and marked the old Tornado Strike stock page for deletion. I THINK I updated all of the pages that linked to them, but please look it over to see if I missed any of them.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 15:51, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my edits. I wasn't aware of the issue with a "/" in the title of the page. Looks good either way. I just really saw no point in there being two different pages for an accessory that is physically identical other than the color, especially when the "new" color was also used with the original Soaker as well.

On another note, but along the same lines, I personally don't see a reason that the original (non-Elite) Firestrike and the Night Finder EX-3 shouldn't get the same treatment, since they are physically identical as well, other than the color. But I guess that would open a whole can of worms with the various colored series of the N-Strike line.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 16:18, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

References in other media sections
Just noticed you removed that section from the Raider article. Might I ask why? I really enjoy finding out about TV shows, etc. that have featured some of the various models of Nerf guns. I thought it was particularly interesting, even funny that a professional gun shop (the one on American Guns) keeps a Raider hanging on the wall (probably used for recreation in the shop or to blow off steam at work).

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:52, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Barricade shoulder stock
Back to the subject of recolored stocks (such as the one we merged the other day), shouldn't this one simply be merged into the Raider stock page? It is physically identical, other than the color, as far as I'm aware. It also might be worth noting in the trivia that resale prices for Barricades with this stock are often very high due to its rarity, similar to the Pinpoint sight.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 14:37, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

RE: Dart Blaster
Okay, thanks. I missed the word "generally". My mistake, sorry for calling your edit annoying. I'm fixing it rite nao.

Dart Blaster
Okay, I know that it is the only blaster that actually uses missiles, but it is a very popular blaster and I don't believe it should be left out just because there is only one blaster that uses it. No offense, but that was an annoying edit on your part.

Jolt172 (talk) 04:59, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Strongarm
Hey, i'd just like to know if it would be okay to put up the Strongarm page, since it's been discovered. I'd like to start the page, unless there's any concerns. Thanks, Ga  ge  02:06, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Odd Nerf sight on eBay
Any idea which sight this is on the gun in the auction? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Nerf-N-Strike-Single-Shot-Pistol-with-Sights-/330771200268?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4d037ff90c#ht_500wt_1414

At first glance I thought it was the Pinpoint sight, but it is clearly not that.

edit: nevermind, figured out that it is the remote for the Disk Shot game. Saw another one in a different auction.

Community vote
Hi, I'd just like to inform you that I've set up a community vote, and I'd really appreciate it if you could voice your opinions on it. This particular community vote focuses on the state of the unconfirmed N-Strike Elite blasters. The link is here. Thanks for your time, Ga  ge  21:19, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Nite Finder EX-3 Sight edits
While I can understand most of the edits you made on this, why did you change the capitalization of the word "Sight"? If you look closely at the image of the instruction manual page, it is consistantly capitalized there, so the word "Sight" is actually part of the name Nerf used for it.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 19:00, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Raider & Recon
I'd say that the fact that both of these have been pulled from store shelves (and put on clearance at Target at the very least, probably other stores too) and replaced by the Rampage and Retaliator is pretty good proof that they have been discontinued. Both guns are showing as out of stock online and in stores on both Target and Walmart's web sites as well. They are still listed on the Toys R' Us site, but I doubt that will last very long, probably just selling through their remaining stock (they've always, as far as I've seen, been the last to sell out of something that was discontinued, due to their higher prices on most things). I thought it was already understood that they were being replaced by the Elite models?

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 18:56, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

Whiteout series
Just went to look at the page for the Whiteout series, and it is blank, yet looking at the edit history shows it correctly. Something odd going on there.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:10, August 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * edit: now its back to normal. Never mind.


 * Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:13, August 14, 2012 (UTC)

Okay
Okay, but I have a question, how do you use pictures that were already uploaded on a different page because when I try using them I have to copy them and that is how I get them on my page. Could you help me with that? Thanks Firestar25 (talk) 02:48, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Speedload 6 gallery
The pic you just added of the nerf model firing the speedload 6 is flipped sideways.

Sure
Okay, I will look at the gun photos before I create a galler, thanks Firestar25 (talk) 01:44, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Super Soaker articles
If you don't mind, I'd like to begin to create Super Soaker articles soon, I've been getting pretty anxious. Would it be alright to start moving pre-existing articles to "Super Soaker: Arctic Shock" and so on? I have plenty of time this weekend from what I know, so I could probably start to work on a bunch of articles. Ga ge  14:09, August 17, 2012 (UTC)

Hornet AS-6
Hey Jet, I noticed a problem on the Hornet AS-6 page. In the "reloading and firing" section, it says 10 pumps to maximum power, but the review says 15. A fix on this would be greaty appreciated. Thanks!

Jolt172 (talk) 00:44, August 19, 2012 (UTC)

New header
I have created a new header on articles that shows links to /Gallery and /Reviews on those pages now. If there's anything I should change or add to it, please let me know. This is just a prototype, I'm checking to see if the community likes it. Thanks, Ga  ge  22:13, August 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think this header should be enough for now. We'd have to make one for Super Soaker as well, but the only thing that would really change would be "Template:Color2", which would have to be changed to like "Color3". Anything we should improve? There's two other slots for if we ever decide to add another section, it should be simple. Ga  ge  18:06, August 31, 2012 (UTC)


 * Okay, that's fine. Should we start to add these? I'd be able to get some done before I have to leave for the weekend, but I'm not sure how much I'd be able to finish. Ga  ge


 * That rectangle I believe is just the bottom of the header, I don't think we could add anything in it. Theoretically we could add up to like 7 categories in the actual header, but none in that section. Ga  ge  18:29, August 31, 2012 (UTC)

Rating System Problems
JetCell, wouldn't large blasters fire faster than medium sized blasters? Since it is powered by batteries, wouldn't it have capabilities that exceed blasters smaller than them. The large blasters that are still active have firing speeds that are much greater than medium blasters, meaning that the grading curve should be harder. I only know of 2 non- semi guns that would be able to have a 10 for firing speed, the raider and the rampage. The larger blasters mostly have firing speeds of 10

PsyclOwnd (talk) 04:46, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. PsyclOwnd (talk) 16:01, September 1, 2012 (UTC)

Reviews
While looking at Eliminator, I noticed that the review page only linked to the bottom of the page. Is that now on all articles with the tab? The review page was intended to be the page where the users get to voice their own opinions and share their own reviews, which is what we planned earlier. Just a little confused right now. Ga ge  20:47, September 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * Alright, thanks for letting me know. Ga  ge  20:51, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

Been awhile
Hey whats up? Hey could you do me a favor? Answer this question for me. When ever I add a photo it says added by jetcell of firestar25 and I know that you know how to fix that. Can you tell me how to? Thanks Firestar25 (talk) 01:59, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Years
We could probably get away with merging all of them together on one page under different categories, so that pages like "Super Soaker:2009" (which had one whole blaster) aren't close to empty. It may be a bit long, but it would probably be better than to create a bunch of other similar pages, making it slightly harder for some people to find what they are looking for. Ga ge  20:23, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Late response
Sorry for the late response, but I've left the message now. Ga ge  11:26, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

Years + Super Soaker
Would it be a good idea to start having Super Soaker products in year articles? I've set up an example at 1989 to show what it would look like. I'd like to hear your take on whether or not we should have it in the articles. Ga ge  15:25, September 29, 2012 (UTC)

Older Blaster Wikis
nerfmaster8, jetcell, and gage,

I and a lot of other users have noticed that there is a lack of pictures in a lot of the older blaster pages. I know you guys are working on changing the wiki pages on older guns, and I could help upload pics, but i don't know how to upload photos. Can someone shiow me how to add pics? JDB3326 (talk) 23:07, October 8, 2012 (UTC)

messages?

 * I already said no to the message wall. Leave it as it is please. I hate the message wall, and no one else wants it either. It's not useful and it's annoying. Ga  ge  22:17, October 26, 2012 (UTC)

off brand series

 * Lanard has two series; Clear-X and Total X-Stream Air. Buzz Bee has had Ultimate Blasters, Power Lock, Ruff Stuff (blasters from 2003-2007), Air Blasters (2008-2010, still sold overseas), Air Warriors (2011-Present) and Air Warriors Extreme. That's about it, I might be forgetting one. Ga  ge  03:03, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

hey jetcell,I'm all on board with the new rating system, but affordability needs to be factored in because it's not worth it to spend $30 on a nerf gun that performs just as well as a $6 nerf gun(raider vs jolt, for example). Another note, capacity should be based on catergory. For example, the jolt has a low score because it only comes with 2 darts, but it deserves a better score because it has an average capacity for its size. this is how the catergories should be:

Affordability:Is it worth the retail price? Would you buy it again?

Reliability:Does it jam a lot? Does it have good accuracy? Does it have a good capacity for its size? Does it require batteries to fire?

Range:How far will it fire with at least a 50% chance of hitting the target? How far is the maximum range?

Rate of Fire/Capacity:Does it have a ood stock capacity? Is it clip compatible? Is it possible to obtain more ammunition easily(ex. refill packs)? How fast can it be fired?

Size/Weight:Is it extremely heavy? Is it extremely bulky?

JDB3326 (talk) 17:36, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

New Longshot
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NERF-N-STRIKE-BLASER-CS-6-LONGSHOT-2-IN-1-BRAND-NEW-SEALED-/200837868939?pt=Outdoor_Toys_Structures_US&hash=item2ec2dead8b

What do you think of this? Please share on NM&R, this is brand-new news. Ga ge  00:11, October 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * From what I know, there's no known box photos of the updated-packaging for the Longshot. All other blasters got new boxes in 2010, except it, if I remember correctly. Either way, this is the first time I've ever seen this box. Ga  ge  00:31, October 30, 2012 (UTC)

Elite Jolt
Please read over the last bit of conversation between Nerfmaster8 and myself about this. In my opinion, there is enough of a difference between the Jolt EX-1 and the Elite Jolt for them to continue to have separate articles. If we merge them, then we should also merge some other articles such as the Dart Tag Firestrike and the N-Strike Nite Finder EX-3 (which are identical other than the name).

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 12:41, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

nite finder merge

 * I don't believe he ever said this. I think he was using it as an example of how the Jolt should get its own article. If you ask me, merging articles like that are pretty pointless. I mean, if we're going to get rid of the Firestrike and Jolt NSE pages, we might as well get rid of the Big Bad Bow/Tech Target re-releases. They're all the same bag; there was never a problem with having a similar blaster having another page before. When did this need a merging? If the Lightningstorm gets its own article, the NSE Jolt should too. I see no reason to merge it. Ga  ge  17:40, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Gage. As you said, I never meant to imply that the Nite Finder and the older Firestrike should be merged, but that the Jolt EX-1 and the Elite Jolt shouldn't be merged, since the precedent has already been set. How Nerfmaster8 could so horribly misinterpret what I've been saying is beyond me. I'm guessing that English isn't his first language maybe? Somehow he even thought I was talking about merging the Elite Firestrike and the Nite Finder. At this point, it would be FAR more work to go back merging all of the older blasters that are identical than to simply leave the Elite Jolt alone. Why this has even been a debate is beyond me.
 * Bluedragon1971 (talk) 19:40, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

i am out of this wiki Star297 (talk) 15:24, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

recent copied blasters

 * Wow, the copied ones are pretty blatant, but I would love to get my hands on that one (looks like it might be called Storm from the print on the blaster itself) that looks like an AR-15. And I do like the fact that they changed the Barricade to accept barrel extensions.


 * Bluedragon1971 (talk) 18:10, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Previous consensus

 * As I have been semi-active lately for schooling reasons, I have no idea what you're talking about. Do I have to reiterate that in the deadlines, four people voted to keep as is and three people voted differently? You added those votes in later and said that the votes on my side didn't count. You like to say you won, but you didn't, we just had to reach a consensus to keep you from complaining about it, to put it bluntly.


 * I love you depict me as a bad person, saying I cause problems around here and whatnot. You don't see me complaining about every single thing and whining when I don't get my way. Go ahead, ignore me, as I don't care. I do what I think is right and what actually makes sense. Removing any bit of information about any unconfirmed blaster, removing the mentioning of them on any other pages entirely, and throwing the article into a rather hidden forum page is an unintelligent idea. I haven't caused any "confrontations" recently, with the exception of reverting your idiotic edit of removing the mentioning of the unconfirmed blasters.


 * I've been tired of dealing with this for far too long. It's unheard of that you get your way every time, and what you say has to be done always seems to have it's way around here. NOT ONE PERSON asked to have new blasters hidden for no one to see them but you. NOTHING WILL HAPPEN if we have pages or information on this wiki. Most of your logic is completely false, ie: that Hasbro will get us in trouble if we have info on the articles. I've said many times that nothing will happen and that it's fine. You were, are and always have been the only person to have a problem with this. You boss other users around and constantly have a negative attitude around here. You are very hard to deal with, and if you don't change and give someone else an opportunity to have a point around here, then either you leave or I do. Myself and just about everyone else who has been editing here for a while are sick of you always getting your way, even when it's a dumb reason and it was absolutely fine without it. Go ahead, ignore me. It will be better to have an end to these arguments. Be aware, I will point out your flaws and errors as I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DOING even if you ignore me. Don't be surprised to see some major rebuttals next time you have another nonsense idea to throw at us. Ga  ge  21:14, November 14, 2012 (UTC)

blaster reviews
Hello, I recently realised that a wikia contributer has been going around some nerf guns and have been putting inapropriate words on them. This is just a little heads up message because i have currently seen 3 pages containing a rude word.

Tacoderp (talk) 05:38, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Stryfe
Why in the hell are you people refusing to accept that this blaster should be considered confirmed since it is being sold in multiple stores in several different states? This isn't simply a few being leaked out or sold on eBay, this is pretty widespread availability.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 17:45, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

A handful of blasters being sold in Singapore is a very different thing than a large number of them being sold in multiple stores across multiple states in the US. That would be roughly the same as them being sold in multiple European countries. I've been to Singapore, and it isn't unusual there for things to leak out early becuse the factories that actually make this stuff aren't that far away (or are even in the country), and some items are slipped out of the factories into some stores. The Stryfe has obviously been produced, shipped to wharehouses and distribution centers in the US, and then sent to stores and entered into the POS system. That's a big difference, in my mind, from someone slipping a few out the back door of the factory and leaking the info on their blog.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 18:03, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

recent redirects
May I please ask why you delted my post on the super soaker page about the scope looking like the real life ACOG scope? Because it does look much like an acog scope and it can give nerfers some ideas.

Hello, I was wondering why you delted my acog post on the super soaker wikia, because it does look like an acog scope and it can give some nerfers some good ideas. (sorry if this is a repost, forgot to sign my first one.

Tacoderp (talk) 00:38, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and another thing I find strange, on the deploy, it got a 6 for capacity, on the longstrike, it got an 8, and on the recon, it got a 10. All 3 dart blasters uses the 6 dart clip so I was just wondering why they were ranked differently there.

Tacoderp (talk) 00:44, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Amazon images
I'm sorry about the argument with Nerfmaster8 about those images, and thank you for restoring them. I really don't understand why he insists on being so petty about those. Griping about a SLIGHT color difference between what is posted on Amazon and what is posted on the Nerf site? Really??? Please issue a CLEAR statement about what you want as far as these types of images. I can understand not wanting to post user created images of unreleased or leaked blasters, but not posting the high quality images from a reputable source such as Amazon is beyond silly.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:31, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Whiteout Series
Hey, just wondering, do you think that the whiteout series was just a test or a beta version of the new N-strike elite guns? I mean it does make sense seeing how whiteout had its own darts and stronger firing system. The whitout could have been a test subject to see how many people would like it.

Hello, do you think the whiteout series was a test/beta verson of the new N-strike elite blasters? I mean both series made imporvements to guns (although the elite series did introduce some new ones) and both had there own darts.

I was going to put this onto the trivia section stating that the whiteout may have been a beta version of the elite series but I thought it would be better to as you first.

Tacoderp (talk) 12:02, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I really doubt it. The Whiteout series didn't have that much better ranges, although the blasters themselves were made of more durable materials. And other than the color, there wasn't anything special about the Whiteout darts. The design of the internals on the Whiteout series wasn't really different than the regular versions of those blasters.

One thing that I have wondered though is if the color scheme of the Longstrike and especially the Raider was made to gauge people's taste for blue over yellow for the primary color of the series. I mean, the color scheme of the Raider is nearly identical to the Rampage. The digital camo designs also got introduced along with the blue blasters.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 13:37, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

blaster reviews
not sure how closely you follow http://www.youtube.com/user/Randomshadow09/videos?flow=grid&view=1 who is an author on Nerf mods and Reviews, but i did notice that he has range videos up for N-Strike Elite, Vortex, Dart Tag and N-Strike blasters. Would you like to use those range tests results in actual blaster reviews for blasters that sgnerf didn't cover?

sonic and whistler dart merge
On that note as well, there is, IMHO, no reason not to merge the two different types of Dart Tag darts, since the only difference between them is the color and the fact that the newer ones whistle.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 01:35, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

NS dart discontinued
Streamlines should also be marked as discontinued. I believe that Hasbro even stated as much in that FFA article we were discussing earlier. You can still occasionally find them, but usually only on clearance (like most of the other darts besides Elites and Firefly tech streamlines (for now, till the Elite version of those hit the stores).

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:18, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yep, as I thought: " The original streamlines and N-Strike brand as we know it are going to be replaced by N-Strike Elite." http://foamfromabove.blogspot.com/2012/06/nerf-n-strike-elite-info-lowdown.html

We should have marked Streamlines as discontinued a while ago.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:22, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

OMW update
Hey Jetcell,

We need to update the Orange Mod Works page because they came out with new stuff. Here's what we need to edit:

1. There are no other third party companies that sell nerf modding products on this wiki, so change the name to Nerfer/Orange Mod Works.

2. Change the Stage kits title to Unleashed Performance kits. You should use the official name.

3. Add these new items: Retaliator Unleashed(Make this into a new section called Unleashed Solid), Silicone Grease(Put that they used to come in capsules, but now come in a tube with orange grease), O-Rings(the O-rings work on the Recon, Longstrike, Raider, Deploy, Maverick, Sharp Shot, and Spectre), Springs (they have springs for the Deploy CS-6, Quick 16, Sharp Shot, Spectre REV-5, Speedload 6, Stampede ECS, Swarmfire, Vulcan EBF-25, Retaliator, Rampage, Longshot CS-6, Alpha Trooper CS-18, Recon CS-6, Raider CS-35, and Nite Finder EX-3(This spring will work with the Element EX-6 and Switch Shot EX-3), Catch Springs, OMW shirts, and the free mod guides.

That's it. If you don't want to do it, just unlock it and I'll do it. You can lock it when I'm done.

70.44.8.227 16:46, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

New Lanard Blaster
While everyone is getting exited about Nerf, Lanard hasn't really come forward with anything new yet. I did a little sleuthing and discovered a new blaster, a disc-blaster called the "Disc Blaster", or "Voltex", as the site says.

http://www.lazada.com.ph/Lanard-Total-X-Stream-Voltex-Blaster-26205.html

Enjoy. Ga ge  03:49, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

It looks to me as more an issue of people not using it correctly than it being broken. There are two fields there, the first is for the link, the second is a free-form field for the text you want to use for the link. BOTH have to be filled in even if the text in them is simply the same. I've been trying to fix any that I find. This may have been some Wikia update though that changed how those templates work.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:19, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

New products listed
all elite blasters are listed on Nerf.com

firevision http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/en_US/shop/details.cfm?R=673192E1-5056-9047-F5E3-9BD62298EB19:en_US

68.43.244.67 17:28, December 22, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with Nerfmaster8
Will you PLEASE tell him to stop posting inaccurate images to replace accurate ones? He keeps arguing about the sources of images, but when people post ACCURATE ones, he replaces them with inaccurate images, just because they come from the Nerf site instead of Amazon, etc. He also claims that the best image available of the new Jolt doesn't look like the real thing, which I can't see what he's talking about. I have that blaster sitting right in front of me.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 04:10, December 24, 2012 (UTC)

Hi there JetCell. im back. i was gone because i was sign out and later i forgot my password but i remeber now so see ya for now BURNINGxlegend (talk) 09:39, December 27, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't START any arguments. I merely pointed out that the "official" photo was inaccurate as it was missing the white stripe and the paint on the name, which had been seen in leaked images. I was only able to upload a photo of it AFTER Christmas because it was one of my son's presents, and I couldn't exactly take it out of the package before then to do a picture. I was also under the impression that the official product images (3/4 view with the white backgrounds) were preferable to user-created images here, which is why I didn't do one immediately to replace the incorrect one, until you asked me to.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:05, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Jolt and Reflex listed as Elite on Nerf's web site!
Interesting thing I just noticed - http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/en_US/n-strike.cfm The first image of the slideshow has the recolored Jolt and Reflex listed with the other Elite blasters.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:25, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

They also list the Jolt as "N-Strike Elite Jolt" on the "all blasters" page http://www.hasbro.com/nerf/en_US/shop/browse/Nerf/Elite/_/N-1rZgtZu9/Ne-2l?Items=48, but oddly the Reflex isn't shown there.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:32, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I agree that we should leave them here as recolored versions of the originals (I have both the old and new versions of both, and the ranges seem about the same), but I did make a note in the trivia of the Jolt about this discrepency (hopefully to avoid any future arguments about it being Elite or not). What I find even stranger is that they have the Reflex in that picture, but it isn't actually listed on the site anywhere else!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:50, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

re: Distinguish template change
Oh, OK. Yeah, I like the current one, but maybe you could put a note on the form that both fields need to be filled in for it to work correctly. It confused the hell out of me the first time, and I'm about as computer literate as they come!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:28, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hail Fire review
The last few edits that people have done have totally screwed up the review, and I don't see an easy way of fixing it short of re-writing it. Can you fix it? I only know how to undo the last edit, not several in a row.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 22:23, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 22:27, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

recolor blasters

 * Now that I have actually gotten ahold of some old Dart Tag Firestrikes and compared them to my Nite Finder EX-3's, I really do think that those should be merged into a single article. There is ABSOLUTELY no physical difference between the two blasters other than the name and colors, and they should simply be treated as a recolor instead of different blasters.


 * Bluedragon1971 (talk) 02:48, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

re:merging
i thought that i already gave a clear example of what would happen or do i need to show you guys? as gage pointed out, the recolors have litterally no extra info besides the performance which you have heitated on. if you can point out specifics that need to be included in the original article, there will be a way to include it. info box info can be easily added as a list to the recolor info. a gallery can be created at the bottom to show the recolors as well as packaging. i can create an example using the reactors using the test template on my wiki as an actual example if you wish.

again merging articles depends on the blaster itself, the cyberstrike and elite strongarm obviously can't be merged but the recolors, rayven (no real difference) can be. like the jolt and reflex that new info can be added either under details or history depending on where it fits best.

on the topic of the off brand stuff, i have gone through all of jerm's reviews as well as buzz bee, x shot and nerfipedia to scourage for info/intel. there are a few blasters that were either left out or had no info what so ever that constitutes a page-blank. if there are blasters that are that similar then they can be merged in a way that is displayed nicely. Please reference the earlier example.

you will understand when i start posting the articles to my own wiki. due to the fact that there is no community what so ever that wishes to keep a wiki database on this topic going, each finished article will be locked. nobody to watch over articles, no point on leaving them open for editing for vandalism. wiki activity on nerf wiki has left me with no choice as there will be many more articles to watch over and i don't have the time to watch over that many files. newer articles will be posted while older ones need verification on info. any missing or inaccurate info can be noted in the talk page and a discussion will be held, please add sources to verify info.

for future blasters, it may just be best to not create the article until full details are known and confirmed; a lot of arguments have sprang up over issues of source, image, info, etc. i also don't get why everyone else isn't able to add info from the sources that we have noted (official sources, amazon doesn't count-its a last resort, mainly for discontinued news). Nerfmaster8 (talk) 04:20, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Honestly, I don't think we will ever get "official" confirmation of some items (Dart Tag products, certain N-Strike blasters, etc.) being discontinued. Toy companies in general and Hasbro in particular has a long history of silently discontinuing production of items without ever actually announcing that they are doing it. I've been in the Star Wars collecting scene for probably longer than some of you have been alive, and they do stuff like that all of the time with the figure lines and particularly with the vehicles (which I'd say are a closer match in size and cost to Nerf blasters). That's one reason I brought up the idea the other day of a "possibly discontinued" template that we could add to blasters that are apparently discontinued (no longer sold in most national retailers, gone on clearance, etc.), but without any kind of official word on them from Hasbro/Nerf.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 13:41, January 2, 2013 (UTC)


 * I agree with this, since this happened many times during Nerf's history. The Hyperfire, Strikefire, Magstrike AS-10, Quick 16, Firefly REV-8, Furyfire, Stormfire and Switchshot EX-3 are probably good examples of blasters Hasbro does not sell anymore. Hasbro has, since I've started Nerfing four years ago, never officially told us a blaster was dropped, with the possible exception of the Longshot CS-6. Now, with the N-Strike Elite line replacing old blasters, it's probably a good time to add this feature. Ga  ge  15:04, January 2, 2013 (UTC)

Gun Creator wiki
I started a gun creator wiki that I would like you to help with. Here is a link [//nerf-gun-creator.wikia.com/wiki/Nerf_Gun_Creator_Wiki http://nerf-gun-creator.wikia.com/wiki/Nerf_Gun_Creator_Wiki]

Nerfer900 (talk) 22:25, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Vandalism and nuisance edits by unregistered users
I know this has been discussed before, but honestly, I think it is time that we revisit the idea of not allowing unregistered users to edit this wiki. It seems that at least 90% of the edits I've done lately were to fix intentional vandalism or incorrect information by unregistered users. There are also the ones that you can tell were probably written by an 8-10 year old (simply by their grammar or lack thereof). I know that it wouldn't fix everything, but it sure would put a bit of a stumbling block in the way of the majority of the troublemakers.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 20:55, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that would fix the problem; you were there, Bluedragon, when Finnpen37 was doing the Nerf Maverick stuff. It's horrendously easy to create an account on wikia, even if that's all you intend to do. Also, isn't that the job of the moderators and admins? To moderate goings on? Nerf is a children's toy range, let's face it, so it's to be expected that this wiki, more than others, will recieve inappropriate material. It's unavoidable.

Zorrodelcinicismo (talk) 21:13, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

As I said, I understand that it won't totally stop it, but look, for instance, at the original Rayven article. The last dozen edits have been Jet, Nerfmaster, and I re-adding the discontinued template after unregistered users keep deleting it. I know that it won't stop people who are intent on screwing with the site, but it can at least give them a speedbump. Maybe Jet could just lock some of the articles for a while (the blasters that have just recently been replaced by Elite versions in particular, since that is what we seem to be having a lot of trouble with lately). I would already have done that if I was an admin here. I have my e-mail set up to notify me when articles I've edited get changed, and the first thing I look for is if it was changed by an unregistered user. 90%+ of the time, those edits are either vandalism or sloppy/wrong edits. I'm on the computer 6-8 hours per day, and am constantly checking this site.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:24, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

I think that would make for an excellent alternative. Locking the newer articles would certainly stop any difficulties. Is it possible to lock only certain articles to those unregistered? That would probably make for the best solution.

Zorrodelcinicismo (talk) 21:38, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

I am fairly certain that is possible. Jet just told me that she will consider it if this nonsense of people removing the discontinued tags carries on much longer.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:41, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

i was only doing the maverick stuff 2 show my ideas_finnpen37 aka jack

Message archive
Don't you think it is about time to archive some of the older discussions on your talk page? It is getting a bit long.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 01:02, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Possible Red Jolt?
I was searching Argos.co.uk when I found a product ad for the N-Strike Elite Tactical Vest, when the photo looked odd.



This image here shows what appears to be a red Jolt and some sort of prototype Stockade. Odd image, thought I'd let you know.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9089369.htm

Ga ge  21:28, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but that looks to me like they simply took the image from the older tactical vest and recolored the darts and blaster. I haven't seen a light blue Barricade before (which is what that looks like in the holster), have you? Dead giveaway though is the black elastic bands holding the clips and darts. The elastic on the Elite vests is blue.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 22:12, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

LOL, look at the darts in the clips as well, they are clearly Streamlines, not Elite darts. Photoshop fail!!!!!!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 22:15, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

I just went to the page for that ( http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/9089369.htm ), and if you use the zoom feature you can clearly see that it has been recolored (and poorly). Those are regular N-Strike clips as well, not Elite clips.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 22:20, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

re: Promotion
Thanks!!!

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 05:33, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Understood, but that needs to work both ways. Nerfmaster8 has a long history of being petty and rude to others as well.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 03:44, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

Imperial or Metric for Capacity?
While just about no one in the Nerfing community measures distance in meters, when it comes to capacity, iSoaker.com and several other major Super Soaker websites all use liters and milliliters. I also find capacity to be easier read in liters as it is less broad and more accurate. Thought I'd throw it out here, when we're doing reviews and whatnot of Super Soakers, would we be using metric or imperial? Thanks, Ga  ge  22:55, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

which ever is easier to take measurements on, use that measuring system. 35.11.163.207 22:57, January 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * That sounds good, that way the wiki can apply to all crowds and not just one. I like that idea. Ga  ge  23:18, January 21, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm going to finish up with the Gallery pages on existing Soakers, then begin adding the pages from older series.  GA    GE   23:26, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Using both sounds good to me. When creating a new article, I tend to simply list whatever is stated in the source or on whatever packaging I happen to be looking at, and don't bother to do any conversions. If someone wants to add the other system to that article, fine, but don't replace one for the other.
 * Bluedragon1971 (talk) 23:34, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I think keeping feet for distance would be easier though since it's the most readily available measurement for range. That's one category where metric is not really as useful here, but hey, we'd seem more official in the eyes of Wikia. GA  GE  23:43, January 21, 2013 (UTC)

Why the 'no comparisons to real guns' rule?
Not that I wish for it to be removed, I was just wondering why it is in place. Is it something to do with the law? Or this site's demographic?

Thanks,  Witty Englishman  20:17, January 26, 2013 (UTC)

old pics
it looks like foam from above is posting pictures of old blasters on a daily basis until the NYC toy fair, would you be interested in using those perhaps with permission? 35.11.163.207 05:18, February 7, 2013 (UTC)

new york toy fair
Which info are you talking about? The Blazin' Bow and the Revonix360, or the Rebelle line? Either way, the info came out within days of the NY Toy Fair, and those blasters are all being shown off there (as shown in pictures published by several sites), so I think it is reasonable to list all of them under the Toy Fair heading. You really are simply trying to split hairs by making a distinction there. While the info on them came out on blogs a day or two before hand, they are officially being shown off at Toy Fair. Quite honestly Nerfmaster8, I'm getting really annoyed by your attitude around here and by the way you treat other people.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 02:57, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Problem with an unregistered user
We just had an unregistered user this morning go through and remove the discontinued tag from several N-Strike blasters. I fixed the ones I saw, but they kept unding my edits on the Magstrike. Can you please block them (or better yet, give me authority to do that)?

I know we've had the  discussion in the past about not allowing edits by unregistered users, but we have been having a LOT of that again lately. Nearly every incorrect edit I've fixed lately has been by an unregistered user (I can only think of one case of vandalism by a registered user in the last couple of weeks). While it wouldn't fix everything, it would certainly help some. Maybe we should at least consider locking current N-Strike blaster articles against edits by unregistered users articles since those seem to be the ones they are primarily messing up (mostly removing discontinued tags and messing with reviews).

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 14:35, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

I seem to be on this as two (unregistered) user numbers.
31.54.232.240 21:24, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

I am the same person as user 86.179.160.112, how can I get back to editing as that one instead of my current alternate user number?

That number is your IP address. Any time you edit a page from a different computer or location, you are going to most likely have a different IP address. The best thing to do is to actually register an account and log in as that instead of editing as an unregistered user.

Bluedragon1971 (talk) 21:52, February 20, 2013 (UTC)

Adminship
Hello there, JetCell! I was wondering if I was able to receive administrator rights on this wiki. I would love to help it out! Although, I'm not asking you directly to give them to me right now (unless if you want to :P), but I would like to know if I could have a limit to reach it. I see that you only have 2 active admins here and I would love to convene the wiki. I'm also an active admin on several other wikis. If you don't like the idea, that's perfectly fine. I understand that it is more reasonable to work my way to earn it, but I would just like to help out the wiki. Thanks! NinjaFatGuy (talk) 21:59, February 27, 2013 (UTC)


 * That's okay. I understood it would come to that conclusion either. I'd be glad to help out the wiki, and I will provide all my potential to help the wiki and earn my way to staff position. Thanks! NinjaFatGuy (talk) 22:22, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

special value packs
just found the following on amazon. some of these may have already been noted.

Hail-Fire bonus special value

Rampage special value

Barricade bonus

http://www.amazon.com/N-Strike-Eleven-Shooting-Battle-Import/dp/B009KZBREE/ref=sr_1_224?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1362038897&sr=1-224&keywords=nerf+n-strike

important message

 * I wasn't opposed to that, I was opposed to the fact that you wanted all the articles on them gone at a stage where it was just the one site down. Now that word has spread that this is a no-go, I retract my decision. Sorry to interrupt/bother, felt I needed to clarify. GA  GE  04:11, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Photo (Slingfire DX-500)
Why can we put the nerf slingfire photo? its the only one we have known, and a wiki goal is to give info right?

RE:Photo
Got it, seems a shame though

List of fictional nerf nstrike blasters conflict
Why do you keep mentioning things twice in the List of fictional nerf N-Strike blasters page? You keep adding distinguish and confusion between real colour sub-series blasters with custom fictional blasters tice. You complained about it when I (I was user 86.179.160.112 before I made an account) added about the Stampede ECS' tactical rails when it was already mentioned.

REALNerfNinja6 (talk) 19:10, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Unregistered user changing reviews
We've had this unregistered user changing stuff on the reviews, most notably the Retaliator. I change it back but they keep getting undone. I've even left a message on his/her talk page but it is still doing it. Can you please give him/her a warning?

Thanks, Ninja of Nerf (talk) 19:38, April 15, 2013 (UTC)

Or block him... Ninja of Nerf (talk)

Wanted pages clean up
Hi, I said I'd give a hand cleaning up wanted pages on your thread on community central. I'm not seeing anything in the user rights log, so I wondered if you still wanted a hand with this? Let me know on my talk page :) Cåm 14:18, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering if we could put up a nerf war page so people can advertize there wars on the wiki?

Rapidstrike
There have been photos of the gun with packaging (There is no way they could completely mimic an official nerf box and the gun).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QRL2Pdm2WRo/UXHP-7BzaNI/AAAAAAAAQr8/p8QdeMtwx2w/s320/Urban+Taggers-+Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rapidstrike+CS-18+(2).jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ROAFDrA4SYQ/UXHQYdxx-TI/AAAAAAAAQuQ/lh1s2VWuBE4/s320/Urban+Taggers-+Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rapidstrike+CS-18.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rkpiH6qX-fw/UXHQNrGqz4I/AAAAAAAAQtY/mqEi8iBoSio/s320/Urban+Taggers-+Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rapidstrike+CS-18+(3).jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-xo074BpV-Yg/UXHQQA6fl8I/AAAAAAAAQto/vblTQLYtE20/s320/Urban+Taggers-+Nerf+N-Strike+Elite+Rapidstrike+CS-18+(5).jpg

Joev14, Respect the Green 21:26, April 21, 2013 (UTC)

Block request
Can you please block user 173.95.168.78? This person has continued to vandalise pages, including the Targeting Set. I reverted it but still think it needs a block.

Ninja of Nerf (talk) 14:42, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Speeldload 6 picture page
Sorry about that page I made about one of the Speedload pictures, I guess it's not right to create talk pages about pictures, and mine looked like spam.

What I'm trying to say is: why can't you see the intergrated clip of the Speedload even though its barrel is facing the left? That's where the clip is. So I assume it has been reflected.

Thanks Ninja of Nerf (talk) 18:03, May 8, 2013 (UTC).

Vandaliser
Can you PLEASE block user 99.8.49.192 for vandalising my user page and user talk page? He's not just vandalised MY PAGE, he's also messed with Taylor Martinez's page.

Ninja of Nerf (talk) 14:35, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! 19:15, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Assault grip trivia
It is related because they are LIKE the assault grip. And besides, before I made an account, I added that trivia to the Retaliator page but you undone it and said "Unneeded facts. If you want to compare the assault grip to other grips, do so on its page". So I put it there and here you are, deleting it. What I'm saying is, basically: Make up your mind.

Ninja of Nerf (talk) 18:20, May 14, 2013 (UTC) Hey there, recently some photos of an elite version of the app cradle came out, is it alright to post them? The box photos shows it mounted on the Rapidstrike, which is why I asked.

Joev14, Respect the Green 23:59, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Attachments with Compatible Blaster lists
These lists take up a lot of page space, wouldn't it be easier just to say "Compatible with any blasters with a tactical rail/barrel/stock attachment connection point?

Joev14, Respect the Green 00:12, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Centurion
Can we create a page now for it? Hasbro/Nerf officially released it on their Facebook page.

Joev14, Respect the Green 21:20, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

FWD: yes it has been announced but only the information released from nerf nation or authorized sources should be used. anything from urban taggers/sgnerf or taibao/baidu are not allowed. Nerfmaster8 (talk) 23:24, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Do you agree with this JET? I'm inclined to think that if Nerf has released photos, we should be able to use any others we find.

Joev14, Respect the Green 23:27, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Finally!
I'm back! I'm unblocked and I'm ready to edit!!!! Ninja of Nerf (talk) 16:24, May 31, 2013 (UTC)