Board Thread:Wiki news and announcements/@comment-1585211-20131207142428/@comment-5065259-20131217175300

JetCell wrote: Perhaps the name "off-brand" wasn't a good choice for the non-Nerf portion of the wiki. I can understand this causing confusion and, if wanted by the community, we can rename that portion of the site to "non-Nerf". The reason why we chose to have all non-Nerf blasters under a single portal and not one for each of their own is just for the sake of organizing things so that the wiki isn't messy. We used Brickipedia as a starting point for the merge with how it treats splitting between Lego products, user reviews, custom articles, etc. Having a portal for each brand may become a bit much, and, I also believe that there's a limit to the amount of custom page types that can be added to a wiki.

As for the wiki name, again, I've mentioned time and time again that Nerf, while a brand name, is also colloquially a broad term for dart blasters in general. Ask an average person what they call toy guns that shoot foam darts and they'd answer with "Nerf gun". This doesn't just go for the average person, but with the fanbase as well. While there are some Nerf purists (and probably the majority of them are underage), the rest of them will use the term "Nerf" broadly. I can't think of any Nerfing website with a large community that splits their discussions based on brand. Yes, fans will refer to Nerf as Nerf, and Buzz Bee as Buzz Bee, Air Zone as Air Zone, etc., but they're really not going to argue over site/hobby name (I honestly can't think of any Nerfing communities that don't have "Nerf" somewhere in their name).

Also, the suggested staff list is pretty biased. Saying that you're the only one who cares about the topic is so wrong. I stress out about the wiki a lot. I've put so much work into the wiki over the past few years. To disregard all that effort I've put into the wiki is pretty disgusting. The same can be said for anyone who's stuck around with the site over the years.

Honestly, I can be pretty quick with resolving issues on the wiki. If there's a page that needs to be deleted, if there's vandalism, I'm quick to take care of it. When there's trouble with a user, I will step in and tell them to calm down. However, when troubles get to be tiring and they're not going anywhere with any sort of resolve in sight, I get tired and put off responding to them. Brickipedia wasn't the best choice to use for such a different topic... that was again for one 1 brand only. this topic covers multiple, if you wish to include non-nerf brands then looking at how multiple brands are incorporated would be the best idea. the avatar wiki did it correctly without creating a new wiki for the "legend of korra", rather they incorporated it into the wiki through use of a special type of portal. this isn't the special limited 3 page types, this is something that can be expanded upon.

this should have been the type of discussion the first time rather than you and gage trying to force a change, that's why this discussion is going on; to try and resolve conflicts. while the most that i have done is bring up something that GG missed in his detailed review (how long each wiki existed, which have been included for fairness), all i have done is recap everyone's opinions into the proposals brought up (except for the promotions, which have now been removed).

“I've mentioned time and time again that Nerf, while a brand name, is also colloquially a broad term for dart blasters in general”

the media mistakes all dart shooting blasters as "nerf guns" due to their ignorance, that’s why most people think of “nerf gun”. Just so you know, Wikipedia calls it “nerf blaster” and not “nerf gun”.

“I can't think of any Nerfing website with a large community that splits their discussions based on brand.”

There is hardly any discussion relating to non nerf, most of it relates to nerf; that’s why the forums have nerf in its name. Keep in mind that if we put everything on one wiki, visitors will be expecting to be able to find information easily, which slider portals can easily do. “there's trouble with a user, I will step in and tell them to calm down. However, when troubles get to be tiring and they're not going anywhere with any sort of resolve in sight, I get tired and put off responding to them” I will keep this in mind when you won’t block disruptive users, which can be considered to be breaking your promise to actually enforcing the rules… you block vandals pretty fast, yet don’t bother with this. I will give you credit to eventually deleting stuff and reverting bad edits when you are online that is after i leave you a message requesting that half the time. regarding the mass vandalism crisis, me and GG were taking care of things while you were sitting in the backseat. I was in touch with wikia staff along with me getting VSTF help. regarding the issues of you ignoring messages, you ignored important messages and also didn't bother to even notify completion of request/thank me when you completed requests/i pointed out your errors.
 * on a normal wiki, RNN would have been blocked a long time ago and that's not even considering the 2 global bans he received from wikia staff.
 * you also have a tendency to not have any foresight before releasing something new.